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gvero
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Posted - 12/26/2019 : 13:14:13
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Hello, I am slightly confused between this two, which one is more adequate to get realistic measurements of harmful exposure, "sensitive" mode is showing like x20-30 over standard way of measuring...
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EmfDev
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Posted - 12/26/2019 : 13:41:41
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Hi gvero, from from the faq section: "The Standard mode on this meter is referring to average reading. Which is the reading been calibrated to a RSM reading standard. The Sensitive mode mostly reports RF pulse peak value. Most signals today are digital. Digital signals are RF pulse signal (composed of a series of short bursts pulses). The amplitude of pulses can differ by many times, sometimes more than 100 times." |
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gvero
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Posted - 12/29/2019 : 09:38:59
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
Hi gvero, from from the faq section: "The Standard mode on this meter is referring to average reading. Which is the reading been calibrated to a RSM reading standard. The Sensitive mode mostly reports RF pulse peak value. Most signals today are digital. Digital signals are RF pulse signal (composed of a series of short bursts pulses). The amplitude of pulses can differ by many times, sometimes more than 100 times."
Yes, I read that before posting here since I am not sure which route to follow from that description, shall I stay with sensitive mode since most of signal is digital these days? |
Edited by - gvero on 12/29/2019 11:12:52 |
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Reply #3
paul
United Kingdom
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2019 : 11:26:17
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To get "realistic measurements of harmful exposure" it is best to use RF Browser mode.Which is not affected by Sensitive or Standard. Vertical and All In One are a bit slow for true,fast peak digital measurements. |
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Reply #4
EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2019 : 10:32:19
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Yes we prefer standard. The reading on standard is from the data in RF Browser. |
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gvero
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Posted - 01/12/2020 : 07:42:02
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Thank you very much to both of you.. cheers |
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taekotra
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Posted - 01/16/2020 : 22:11:12
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Does anyone know how that value is calculated when in Sensitive mode?
The manual says it represents "Total in all bands" (in Standard or Sensitive I assume). So is it collecting various peaks from various bands and summing the densities? Or is it taking the peak density in any band and summing the pulses at that peak? Or something else...?
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Edited by - taekotra on 01/16/2020 23:02:06 |
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Reply #7
EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2020 : 10:21:27
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Hi taekotra, the sensitive is taking the peaks in all bands including the 2.4GHz - 2.5GHz and 240-1040MHz. While the standard is taking average. |
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taekotra
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Posted - 01/17/2020 : 14:29:32
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
Hi taekotra, the sensitive is taking the peaks in all bands including the 2.4GHz - 2.5GHz and 240-1040MHz. While the standard is taking average.
This seems not to be true because the display claims ".24 - 10Ghz" and the manual stating "up to 10Ghz". I understand that it's only the RF Spectrum mode that is limited to the 2.4GHz - 2.5GHz and 240-1040MHz bands.
So Sensitive should be taking the peaks at various bands (which ones?) from the whole 240Mhz - 10Ghz range. Can you confirm?
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Edited by - taekotra on 01/17/2020 15:18:46 |
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Reply #9
EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2020 : 15:53:34
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It is taking peaks in all bands from 240MHz - 10GHz (including peaks from 2.4GHz - 2.5GHz and 240-1040MHz bands). |
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taekotra
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Posted - 01/17/2020 : 16:25:34
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
It is taking peaks in all bands from 240MHz - 10GHz (including peaks from 2.4GHz - 2.5GHz and 240-1040MHz bands).
Do you mean this range is divided into 4 bands, then? 240 - 1040MHz 1041Mhz - 2.399Ghz 2.4 - 2.5GHz 2.501 - 10Ghz
Sensitive mode takes the peaks from these 4 bands and sums them? Or are there more bands? |
Edited by - taekotra on 01/17/2020 16:27:55 |
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EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2020 : 17:01:21
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It has a 240-10GHz general band but it also gets the 240 and 2.4GHz bands. |
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taekotra
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Posted - 01/17/2020 : 17:25:56
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
It has a 240-10GHz general band but it also gets the 240 and 2.4GHz bands.
How many peaks does Sensitive mode take per sample? |
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Reply #13
EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2020 : 10:36:05
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More than 1000 peaks every second. |
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Reply #14
taekotra
7 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2020 : 22:11:26
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
More than 1000 peaks every second.
From this set of 1000+ peaks, what manipulations are applied to generate the "Total in all bands" reading? |
Edited by - taekotra on 01/21/2020 22:42:34 |
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EmfDev
2250 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2020 : 10:23:28
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I am not sure, I need to check this one. |
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taekotra
7 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2020 : 17:25:13
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quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
I am not sure, I need to check this one.
Thanks, looking forward to it! |
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Reply #17
user18
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Posted - 01/26/2020 : 08:34:18
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quote: Originally posted by taekotra
quote: Originally posted by EmfDev
I am not sure, I need to check this one.
Thanks, looking forward to it!
I am also interested in this one, I really get curious when Sensitive reading differs from Standard by a lot (it does not always differ that much).
BTW, I have neve seen a stable Sensitive RF reading below ca. 2.5 mW/m2, that seems to be a kind of minimum value. |
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Reply #18
taekotra
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Posted - 05/28/2020 : 17:06:19
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We are still looking for an answer.
In Sensitive Mode, the GQ390 is taking 1000+ peaks/second.
Again, the question is:
----- How is the "Total In All Bands" value generated? What calculation is applied to the 1000+ peaks? -----
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Edited by - taekotra on 05/28/2020 17:29:30 |
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